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https://reasonablycatholic.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/reasonably-in-action01.mp3

The Rev. Donna Schaper, pastor of the historic Judson Memorial Baptist Church in New York City, talks about her latest book, I ❤ Francis: Letters to the Pope from an Unlikely Admirer. She will be speaking about the book at 7 p.m. on May 1 at Hartford Seminary. Details at http://www.hartsem.edu/event/book-talk-i-heart-francis-by-the-rev-dr-donna-schaper/

Here’s a photo of the “self-fluing log,” a metaphor she explores in our interview.